In this bible talk from Romans 9-11 by Steve Cree, we see the heart of the Apostle Paul laid bare as he grapples with what has happened with unbelieving Israel and gives praise to our merciful God.
Key Verse:
Oh, the depth of the riches of the wisdom and knowledge of God! How unsearchable His judgments, and His paths beyond tracing out!
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3 responses so far ↓
1 Elmo
// Oct 26, 2007 at 10:44 pm
have you considered the silence of comments to be due to the fact that the talk was quite unfairly biased and harsh this week. alot of people are hurt and still healing, hopefully no scars will be left. maybe more research into the facts is needed, for example, rememberance of a quite common verse in john, chaptr three, verse 16, for God so loved the WORLD that he gave his only Son that WHOEVER believes in HIm will live. i already feel the sad lose to your family if one of your children is not CHOSEN by our Father to enter His family, maybe there is a better difference between you and them, and you were the better chosing to be welcomed into the perfect place, seems unfair, to lose a child like that, but that is how it goes, right?
2 Steve Cree
// Oct 27, 2007 at 11:30 am
I’m not sure what to read into lack of comments - we’ve only managed one a week on the last few podcasts, so I guess I can thank you for maintaining the average! Can I encourage you in future comments, however, to use your real name and note a few of the other points Pete made in his ‘a guide to biblical blogging’ post. Yes, I always feel it deeply when we encounter a section of God’s Word that raises issues people in our church family may see differently. Especially, as as you allude to, there are personal situations that makes us feel it all the more deeply. However, there is a deeper cost in the end if we avoid what the Bible is saying. That’s one of the many reasons we work through books of the Bible as we do: it means preachers can’t dodge the difficult topics. John 3:16 is a real favourite of mine too: encouraging us to believe in Jesus as Saviour. It’s worth remembering though, a couple of chapters on in John’s gospel Jesus says “No one can come to me unless the Father who sent me draws him, and I will raise him up at the last day” (John 6:44). So we see the same reality as in Romans 9-11: we are called to believe (Rom 10:9) and yet we must know that even that belief - all our salvation - is granted by God (Rom 9:15-16). Our minds, which are inferior to God’s (Rom 11:34) are left with questions about fairness. But let’s remember that fairness - getting what we deserve - would mean salvation for no-one (Rom 3:10). That will bring us back to humble awe at God’s mercy. I sense your heart for those close to you raised by this issue. That is the place Paul is in too (Rom 9:1-3). For him, it drives him to prayer (10:1) and sharing the gospel (10:14). Whatever we can’t understand in these issues, that is a response worth imitating. Thanks for taking the time to comment.
3 Mitch
// Oct 27, 2007 at 7:23 pm
Who is Elmo? Why hide your identity? As Christians God calls us to speak the truth in love to each other. Let’s be open and honest and transparent in the way we act, not secretive. Elmo, I appreciate you saying honestly how you felt about the talk but it’s a shame you had to hide your identity. How can we encourage each other in real ways if we don’t know who each other are?
I should get onto blogging about what I wanted to say…
I “Love my Church”… what a brilliant slogan. I have really enjoyed the series so far on Romans. Thanks Steve for not dodging the difficult issues when they come up. Before last week I have always found it difficult to grasp Chapter 11:25-32. It is much more clearer now but i will have to keep wrestling with it. Thankyou.
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